Monty M5 Carbon Trials Bike - Eurobike 2011

Aug 31, 2011 at 8:43
by Mike Levy  
Monty M5

Monty's stunning M5 trials bike uses a full carbon fiber frame, along with some other lightweight parts, to bring the total weight down to just 14.9lbs.

Monty M5 details:

• Full unidirectional carbon fiber trials frame
• Unidirectional carbon fork (inc. crown/steerer tube)
• Kevlar down tube protection
• Both post mount rear disc tabs and rim brake mounts
• Chain is partially routed within the chainstay
• Available 2013
• Complete bike weight: 14.9lb/6.79kg


Monty carbon trials bike

While we don't usually do much in the way of trials coverage on Pinkbike, we spotted the amazing looking carbon fiber Monty trials machine in the Eurobike halls and had to share it with you. Monty, who have long been known for their history in the sport, look to push things to the next level with their full carbon fiber M5 competition bike. That's right, a full carbon frame, along with a carbon fork and bar, that bring the bike's total weight down to an astonishing 14.9lbs. There are quite a few lightweight trials parts on the M5 that contribute to that stunning weight, but the carbon frame no doubt plays a major roll. The M5 isn't slated for production until 2013, but it is currently being tested by World Trials Champion Dani Comas. Monty is quite confident in the design, saying that the bike has been holding up just fine. The down tube on this prototype has seen some added protection in the way of a thick kevlar shield added to protect it from impacts.

Monty carbon trials bike

The M5's fork (left) is carbon throughout, including both the crown and steerer tube. The bottom of the frame see's Monty's massive Eagle Claw bolted in place.

Monty carbon trials bike

The M5's chain goes directly through the bike's drive side stay (left) and makes for a very clean look. The M5 can be fitted with either a disc brake out back via the direct post mount or be with hydraulic rim brakes.


Visit the Monty website to see their entire lineup.


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164 Comments
  • 126 8
 That's one expensive looking scooter.
  • 16 4
 trials bikes are weird lookin for sure.
  • 8 5
 Will it break if accident happens?
  • 6 52
flag danielkona (Aug 31, 2011 at 10:59) (Below Threshold)
 it'll break on the first pedal hop
  • 13 1
 really nice bike, if you like trials riding :/
  • 74 6
 ..but will it blend?
  • 8 36
flag alexblayden (Aug 31, 2011 at 11:05) (Below Threshold)
 ^^^^ that joke only works if you can fit it into a blender
  • 16 35
flag lewspeight (Aug 31, 2011 at 11:09) (Below Threshold)
 How long before we see Macaskill snap one of these?
  • 51 1
 It'll be a while since he doesn't ride a Monty...
  • 7 144
flag foggeloggliod (Aug 31, 2011 at 11:49) (Below Threshold)
 In my opinion, i think trial bikes are a disgrace to the word "bike". No offence to any one who rides these.
  • 63 3
 Bikes is bikes, even recumbents. No need to hate just because it's not your "scene."
  • 43 1
 i don't even ride trials and i think that trials is an awesome addition to biking as a sport.
  • 27 1
 @ DHnewboy:

do you ever track-stand or go trough a small corner? ride on street do bunny hops etc...
It all has to do something with trials...

'Balance is the name'

Salute
  • 18 0
 DHnewboy: it has wheels, pedals, cranks bar, a stem, a chain, pedals, what is not bike-y about it?
  • 8 29
flag Knife-in-the-dark (Aug 31, 2011 at 12:47) (Below Threshold)
 The lack of a seat.
  • 8 0
 I ride trials all the time, but prefer to use bikes I can dirt jump with too. Now if only they would stop cracking near the disc mounts.... This is a cool looking bike, but due to the lack of a triangle in the frame some might mistake it for something else...
  • 6 5
 @ Kitejumping:

You can try a 24" Inspired ( They re expensive do Frown )

You re right with the triangle.
peeps may think it's like a motorized bike :S

I deff never want to use it for a big drop... I think the frame would snap in 10000 peaces :S :S
  • 7 0
 y'know, i've always wanted to try trials.
  • 2 1
 You should. Its so fun going from nose to tail just spinning around and around and around.
  • 1 23
flag foggeloggliod (Aug 31, 2011 at 20:28) (Below Threshold)
 first off this is my opinion, not yours. im not hating on anyone who rides, this is just what i think
  • 10 0
 @nielsdewit carbon frames if made properly are significantly stronger than any kind of aluminum, so I really don't think you'll break one...
  • 1 1
 This is gonna be pretty sick, but I just don't think I could spend that much and it will break quicker than other frames. But you kids should stop hating because it's lighter than your kiddys bike.
  • 5 1
 Why will it break?? carbon is stronger than Aluminum.
  • 7 1
 I think all trials bikes look foolish. The reason is because I don't have the skills to ride one and have no business getting near a bike like this. People who rip trials are f'n incredible. If I did have the skills, I would think they are the coolest looking bikes ever created. Smile
  • 5 1
 Yeah, I've seen moto trials and I've seen a few guys practicing on trial bikes. They are incredible for sure. I still think they look wierd, but what they do is an art.
  • 2 7
flag meatbucket9 (Sep 1, 2011 at 8:26) (Below Threshold)
 Hoolydooly - If you did trials you would know, but you don't you are just shouting out crap. Carbon is more brital than alu, most people who run carbon parts on trials bikes don't use it for major parts eg frames and bars and cranks.
  • 3 1
 If the company says it holds up, then it proabably does. Not to mention it would almost surely come with a warranty. Of course, random riders would shatter the frame in pieces, because they ride full suspension bikes and lack both the techique and the smoothness of body shock-absorbation of those of trials riders. I really cant see a problem with the strenght, especially if it will be tested good. The problem i see is that in trials, it happens from time to time that the frame hits some sort of edge or something and the impact is usually directly on the downtube. They seem to be adressing this problem via the kevlar guard. Anyway, the price will probably be so high that you wont see many of these in the streets.
  • 6 1
 Also, to those that dislike the apperance of trials bikes. Each bike is made to suit its riding style. I think trials bikes look really beautiful, especially from an engineering perspective.
  • 3 1
 I'd like everyone to know that I ride trials and that I was joking.
  • 17 2
 wow. I wish Monty would make a Dirtjump bike of similar technology...
  • 6 22
flag n3lson666x (Aug 31, 2011 at 11:17) (Below Threshold)
 carbon dirt jump bike? honestly? -.-
  • 15 1
 carbon dh bike? yeah honest.
  • 3 0
 John Cowan is making a carbon dirt jump frame with his new company.
  • 2 1
 GT has got a CarbonFiber DH bike Wink ( GT FURY )
  • 8 0
 so do so many other companies, specialized, evil, santa cruz, Trek, and many more, if you can make a carbon downhill bike, you can easily make a DJ bike carbon.
  • 3 0
 That's true Salute
  • 1 1
 But wouldnt a carbon hardtail/DJ bike snap way more easily? It would work on dual sussers, but the hard ones will just snap. Theres a lot more strain being put on it compared to a DH bike.
  • 1 0
 good point but, but carbon is much stronger then aluminium, people just think carbon will snap easily cause its lighter
  • 1 1
 Carbon can have a better strength to weight ratio than steel or titanium....
  • 2 3
 carbon cracks... Aluminum dents
1 crash and you can trow away your expensive bike.
Just like road bikes in 'Le Tour de France' Next year no one may ride with Carbon bars because off the accident last year in 'Giro de Italia' and multiple broken bars ( Stressed out carbon) R.I.P.
  • 4 1
 Carbon doesn't crack. The resin over the top strains which looks like cracks, the carbon doesn't fail until It fails catastrophically.
  • 3 0
 @done12341234
have seen the kind of stuff world cup riders do on there bikes? they usually botton out multiple times on one run and pretty hard too so i dont think a dirt jumper would be a problem
  • 1 1
 You dont get what im saying or the physics of it do you? A lot of the force has been lost on a DH bike on the rear shock, so not a lot of strain will be put onto the frame itself, where as a hardtail/really high DJ bikes will not have as much force distribution, therefore crack the frame. Or as he said above, the resin cracks.
  • 2 0
 carbon applications in aerospace industry, motor sports, military, aviation, etc, fortunately indicate your speculation is a is just that.
fatigue properties of carbon can far exceed that of aluminium. I have no problem with the idea of putting my money, safety and trust in a well designed carbon DJ frame. the fact that the largest companies in the cycling industry have done the testing and research to have a carbon frame in every segment of their product lines further proves the engineers agree. if you don`t like the idea then don`t buy one. I will be stoked to rock a 4lb carbon DJ frame that is lighter, stronger, stiffer, with longer fatigue life than an aluminium equivalent....forget it, your right, steel and aluminium frames never fail lol
  • 1 1
 hahaha, I broke two aluminum frames last month, both while riding and not due to any crashes. If I break my new killswitch it will be time for steel or a custom ti.
  • 1 1
 like how evry negative point against carbon has been neg propped, i used to ride both dh and dj/street/park and my dj bike takes a hella lot more hits, harsh flat landings, chainstays twanged on the copings, 50/50 dirt jump landings, nasty over rotated spins theres a massive chance that this would make a possibly over priced carbon frame self destruct

so personaly i would not trust a carbon dj frame
why did the people under my comment jab on about carbon dh frames? i said nothing about a dh frame? morons.

if you look hard enough theres at least 2 edits on pinkbike of dj/park riders running carbon dh bars that snap, i know this isnt a frame but its still enough to not want to run carbon in this type of riding
  • 5 2
 Shit you better not fly anywhere then, I hear those planes just fall out of sky when their wings sheer off.

Better not use trains either, that carbon infused alloy technology they use on the tracks means the trains just de-rail mid-ride.

Also better not buy a new Ferrari or Maserati or any other new super car, I hear their carbon chassis just split during their first drive.

And we ALLLLLLL know how little testing goes into commercial planes, trains and super cars don't we!?

To fully discredit a technology you have not thoroughly experienced or learned about, is both ignorant and deconstructive. Carbon in proper construction can be up to 10x stronger than aluminium, hence the V10 C being almost indestructible, and how ENVE made their carbon DH bars and rims that haven't snapped even under World Cup abuse.

AND NO GOOGLE CHROME I WILL NOT CHANGE ALUMINIUM TO ALUMINUM YOU STUPID COMPUTER ARGFHIKAUSHDIASUD.

/rant
  • 2 1
 But you could have the same argument for using gold instead of copper in wires! Sure gold is a better conductor, but when it breaks, which it will, it'll cost a Hell of a lot more to replace unlike copper.



And to the plane and all that, are any of those things cheap? How many Veyron do you own? Aluminium and steel have been around for ages with hardly no problems and bikes still cosy a bomb just using those materials! Why use a new one for that will cost a shed load more when hardly any of us snap frames? How many of us change their bikes coz they want a new one, not because they snapped it?
  • 2 1
 were clearly not talking about planes or cars? there put under totaly differant types of pressure to your average push bike and will be constructed totaly differantly, anf yet again with a f*cking dh bike argument, were not talking about a dh bike i think carbon dh frames are a perfectly good idea but a dj/street frame made from carbon is a terrible idea besides with the weight chromo and alloy frames are at now (4.3 lbs mark?) what would be the f*cking point in carbon?
  • 1 0
 Yes, he gets me! tup
  • 2 0
 When aluminium was first created and was starting to be experimented with, it costed about 2 thousand USD for a square sheet of it. Everything starts somewhere.
  • 1 0
 But carbon has a lot more work put into it and they will always charge high because they can. People will buy it.
  • 1 0
 The iconic Yeti 303 Rail bikes still cost 4500 for a frame only off of Chain Reaction Cycles. From Evans Cycles a 2011 Santa Cruz V10 Carbon frame only, costs 100 quid more. Technology is moving faster than ever before. It won't be 3 years before most big bike companies are making Carbon DJ bikes as well as DH bikes. Most of them are already making Carbon DH bikes, but there are still a few that are testing and developing but once they've got those methods dialed in they'll apply them to their DJ bikes.
  • 1 1
 I dont care any more. Aslong as DH BIKES (!!!!!!!!!!!!) stay the same price and dont get weaker, im not gunna argue. They can do whatever with DJ, i dont ride them. Same with Trials too.
  • 2 0
 Lol they're not going to get cheaper, only direction is up. For decent ones anyway.
  • 12 0
 omg...thats gorgeous!!!!!! tihs was the last thing id expect coming out in carbon fibre but holy...good job!!!
  • 12 1
 If i were in to trials, I'd jump on that.
  • 6 0
 wouldnt wanna slip those pedals...
  • 12 1
 fucking bear traps...
  • 1 0
 i dont think danny would ride this he does a mix of trials and bmx, inspiresd makes their some of their bikes that way, carbon can fail without warning but aluminum will crack or show stress marks before it does. carbon is still great though just not as good for certain types of biking. Razz
  • 2 0
 Thanks Mike for posting pics of the Monty. I rode trial on and off since the late 80's and actually still have my 1986 Monty T219 in the shed. Its great to see how much the sport is evolving with technology.
  • 2 0
 I'v ridden XC/DH with a fella that was brought up on trials riding, his skills on a his 222 are evidently born/improved from his trials days, He's a surgeon on the thing. Props to trials
  • 1 0
 To be honest dont people understand that people like Mac Askill DON'T ride these kind of carbon versions because the carbon makes the bike and frame too brittle to take any movement so when there training to land the big jumps as soon as they mess upped the bike would get frapped. Razz

Just thought I should shed some light on it . . .
So only the people into the skill side of it on rocks and all will use this kind of things like mattbcxc says.
  • 5 0
 I'll take two.
  • 2 2
 not a huge fan on Monty as previous frames seem to lack in quality but it is cool to see them pushing new ideas in trials, I would like to see a 26" version as I am not a fan of 20" wheels. No doubt will be pretty expensive but I am sure comp dads will still buy them for their kids.
  • 3 0
 That is one he'll of a sexy bike by anyone's standards. Whether you ride trials or not it's some handsome machine Wink
  • 1 1
 Can anyone tell what cranks are on this fresh whip? would be sick to see this thing built with Echo SL bakes/wheels/stem V!Z headset, heaps of Ti and tryall Sticky lites, 12 lb trials bike!!!!!!! is there a rule against that?
  • 1 0
 Wow this was a long time ago! Here in 2016 the carbon Monty has made podiums a couple times at least and has even been used for some streetier stuff. Although I believe it is still the only option for a carbon trials bike.
  • 2 1
 Could be an interesting evolutionary step for the gravity crowd. If this holds up, I could easily see a spill over into the gravity crowd.
  • 5 1
 What do you mean? Like eventually DH bikes might be made of carbon too? Razz
  • 1 2
 I think that happened the other way around, DH carbon prototypes were around two years ago, this bike here has a projected release of two years from now.
  • 5 1
 I think you need to see a doctor...

.. Your sarcasm detectors broke Razz
  • 1 0
 I have firefox 6, can I get an addon for that??
  • 3 0
 OMG! that looks soo cool, i love how the chain goes into the chainstay
  • 1 0
 Hahaha to all you trials haters out there like Dhnewboy and the others, I bet you can't ride a trials bike so you critisize those who do! FAGS!
  • 3 0
 too bad itll never be released, the world ends in 2012
  • 2 0
 That actually looks really cool
  • 2 0
 Such wacky looking bikes haha. I like the open face head tube.
  • 2 0
 dude, this bikes are so wierd
  • 1 1
 that eagle claw looks like its gonna get caught on pant legs of the rider. but other than that id say it's the most bold bike i have seen i a long while.. good luck danny!
  • 1 0
 You can probably tell, but i dont even almost ride trials.
what is the 'eagles claw' thing for?
  • 1 0
 Think of it as a skidplate. It's to deflect impact when you land on your BB shell. You can use it to "climb" up logs, too. Look up some trials footage, and you'll understand right away.
  • 1 0
 Depending on the style of the rider lots of them really hammer the BB area, that guard/frame doesn't look like its for that kind of rider I guess, but more of a protector.
  • 1 1
 In competitions it's able to jump on a obstacle and use the Bash plate to climb up.
You can only slide with it for 1 sec otherwise when you re balancing on it you get 1 penalty point Wink

It's also a protector ( not recommended to land on it after a 4 meter drop ) Like a Bash Ring. to keep the chain(wheel) alive.

hope i helped you out with the question Salute
  • 3 0
 There are two major scoring types for trials bikes. UCI and BIU. In UCI scoring you are not allowed to use the bashplate, in which case it is just a protector in case you screw up. In BIU you are allowed to use it. Personally I prefer the UCI style where you aren't allowed to use it. It makes the competitions looks a lot cleaner, bashplate use always looks like cheating, even when it's allowed.
  • 2 0
 That looks expensive... :/
  • 2 1
 It will be.
  • 1 0
 PRICE !!!! HS33- 2499EURO 1999.90POUNDS DISK- 2799EURO 2240.17POUNDS not badly priced same as a koox silver sky
  • 2 0
 i think bike trials more better than unicycle...nice bike!!
  • 1 0
 PRICE !!!! HS33- 2499EURO 1999.90POUNDS DISK- 2799EURO 2240.17POUNDS not badly priced same as a koox silver sky
  • 3 0
 work of art
  • 2 0
 Cool bike, is there any reason for the super long stem? Just curious.
  • 2 0
 The super long stem gives you the "proper" positioning for trials. Trials riders tend to want to be more stretched out than a bmx or DJ rider.
  • 1 0
 That thing is cool, i'd buy one to to have it hang from my garage roof.
  • 1 0
 looks sweet! i dont ride trial but but it looks clean!
  • 2 1
 notta fan of carbon but looks kool
  • 4 0
 whats wrong with carbon??
  • 1 0
 Well I'm not sure what his reservations are about carbon, but I personally am all for carbon mtb bikes....in most applications. For DJ/Trials/Street I am a little reserved about the idea. IMO, seeing some of the things Akrigg or Macaskill do makes me wince at the idea of a carbon version of the bikes they use. Don't get me wrong, I am 100% NOT AGAINST THE IDEA and I'm glad they're moving towards new tech, it still makes me a little uneasy. Really looking forward to seeing this thing take some massive hucks/hits.
  • 1 0
 Sorry, I dont really know a lot about carbon fibers characteristics... could you explain? Is carbon more brittle on big hits/drops?
  • 2 0
 Its tougher in almost every way than aluminum, with the exception being that it chips, and when you crash hard enough to break it bits go everywhere. Generally though its overwhelmingly better than aluminum as bikes like the new SC V10 carbon have shown.
  • 2 0
 The thing is... Akrigg and Macaskill ride a completely different form of "trials" than what this bike is intended for. Danny especially is more of street rider than anything. This is a pure trials bike and I'd be more worried about damage from rocks/square ledge impacts than anything.
  • 1 0
 Carbon fiber as the name suggests, is made up of strands of carbon fibers. The strands can be laid up in different cross sectional patterns so different meshes are formed and a glue (aka resin, prepreg) is used to hard it into a formed shape. Super strong and very very light, the ultimate material but with one exception…if the fibers get damaged, say in a crash, or maybe even if the frame is dinged by a rock, they snap, they don’t stretch. When carbon fails it shatters, its immediate and for the most part unpredictable. Aluminums will stretch or elongate prior to failure, you should have some warning that the part is nearing its end of life. Makes a big difference if you are regularly making road gaps!!
  • 2 0
 Most all of the carbon DH bikes now have a significant layer of protective carbon that is not in any way structural, it's simply meant to deflect rocks etc. And if it gets chipped, scratched whatever it doesn't make any difference to the structural strength of the bike, so stronger, lighter, and fairly crash proof.
  • 2 0
 That's fine and dandy, but trials bikes see so many more repetitive scrapes/impacts especially in the downtube area than a DH bike. I'm not arguing the advantages of carbon fiber, as far as I'm concerned it's a proven material, same as aluminum and cr-mo, and it just comes down to picking the right material for the application. I could see the this as a comp only frame, but it wouldn't want to ride it daily. The Koxx Karbon made sense (as much sense as carbon can make for trials), as it still had an aluminum downtube and stays, and those areas see the most abuse. It looks like Monty has done a decent job building protection in to the downtube, but I still see the frame having a limited life span under every day use just because of the nature of abuse trials frames see. I'll see how long the frames last before I jump on the bandwagon.
  • 2 0
 This is meant to be a pure competition bike. People who buy this bike aren't going to use it for more than a season. If you want to get a trials bike that will last years, you can. But it won't weight under 15 lbs. Trials started using carbon fiber forks this year.
  • 1 0
 6.79kg for a serial bike:O That's sick!
  • 1 0
 thats awesome way better than my trials bike
  • 1 0
 OHHHHHH..... SO SEXY..... gawd...
  • 1 0
 Jeliousy i think its called!
  • 1 0
 thats insane! wonder if it will actually last being sub 15lbs Confused
  • 2 3
 you could make it lighter, with try-all sticky light tyres, carbon stem, a lighter wheel set and light cranks, it could easily sub 15 lbs!!!!
  • 9 0
 Its already sub fifteen pounds...
  • 2 2
 Yeah I can't figure out why if would be hard to get it sub 15. Those bikes are tiny, have a simple drive trail, no suspension. Seems like it should be 10lbs. I guess the massive rims to run low psi . . .
  • 7 0
 Have you ever seen the abuse that trials bikes have to hold up against? You'd be astonished about how strong they need to be.
  • 1 0
 @taleotell Trials frames being around 3lbs sure. But good tires, wheels, and drivechain? Those weigh a few pounds. Cross country bikes aren't anywhere close to this weight, but these bikes can take crazy crazy abuse.
  • 1 0
 I figure they gotta be tough. there are rigid carbon xc bikes that get near there but the are ss so I guess they are practically the same thing.
  • 5 0
 LMFAO
Quote : While we don't usually do much in the way of trials coverage on Pinkbike
thats right a*sholes Whip
  • 1 1
 I love watching old men fuck young girls.
  • 2 0
 I bet you enjoy the old man part. Weird.
  • 1 0
 Can't get enough wrinkle
  • 1 0
 Would you like some insulin sherbert?
  • 1 0
 If you're offering, sure.
  • 1 0
 I hope you brought enough insulin sherbert to share with everyone
  • 1 0
 Nope, it's all mine.
  • 1 0
 Yeah all that is very nice but.. HOW MUCH´S GONNA COST ????
  • 1 0
 probubly like 1800$
  • 1 0
 PRICE !!!! HS33- 2499EURO 1999.90POUNDS DISK- 2799EURO 2240.17POUNDS not badly priced same as a koox silver sky
  • 1 0
 they should fill the tires with helium
  • 2 1
 helium doesn't work for trials Wink
Tried out myself... Doesn't makes the bike lighter/ Get a flat tire faster because of the atmospheric pressure.
Salute
  • 1 0
 VISCA CATALONIA!! Great job men!
  • 1 0
 Look at thoes pedals, MONSTERS
  • 1 0
 Nice love it
  • 1 1
 1201010101001010101010101011010100101101000100101000010010 !!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 1 0
 lol it looks retarded
  • 1 0
 Carbon is everywhere !
  • 4 4
 Need to get Danny Mac on it!!
  • 1 1
 I was waiting for someone to say that!
  • 5 0
 danny mac shits down all day on 20 inch wheels
  • 1 0
 Danny Mac is awesome, but he's not the only trials rider in the world. Dani Comas, the guy who's been testing this is a freakin' animal. He doesn't have any proper videos made, but this is a demo he did, (he's riding the gold bike) www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS-hRLmVbkA&feature=related
  • 2 1
 I don't understand why loads of people have given me negative props?? All I was saying is Danny Mac is pretty good, and would be pretty good on the bike / scooter with pedals!!!!
  • 1 0
 Kuh-razy....
  • 1 0
 Sick bike
  • 1 0
 so light!
  • 1 0
 Is it the "Full Monty"?
  • 1 1
 test ride please! (from danny mac preferably
  • 1 0
 Estimated price?
  • 1 0
 PRICE !!!! HS33- 2499EURO 1999.90POUNDS DISK- 2799EURO 2240.17POUNDS not badly priced same as a koox silver sky
  • 1 2
 Carbon calipers?? Or is it some alloy finish on them? Looks sexy though
  • 3 0
 Most likely black anodized billet. The lines you see are most likely from the CNC cutting process (giving the texture a carbon-like look to it).
  • 2 0
 Its a standard hope trials brake fools!
  • 1 0
 Do have to admit though it does kinda look like a fine carbon weave in the pic, and with the rest of the bike that way it is wouldnt have surprised me haha, But yer is a hope.
  • 2 3
 that looks hard to ride...?
  • 1 4
 good luck trying to sell some of them..
  • 1 2
 They will
  • 1 2
 yea everyone will be rushing out to buy one of those :S
  • 2 4
 Wheres the saddle?? ;-)
  • 2 0
 trials. No or little saddle. Notice Danny M seldom touches his saddle
  • 1 4
 Wouldn't a saddle be beneficial for stability using the inside of your legs though? Even if you hardly sit on it, I think it still has a purpose.
  • 2 0
 You'd think that, but with trials it really just gets in the way far too often for you to benefit from it.
  • 1 0
 Interesting, I have never ridden trials so I would not know. I just know that while freeriding or on the trails, I use the seat massively for stability. I guess I am not whipping my bike around and flipping off of park fences though!
  • 2 0
 In trials you never need that kind of stability, even on an inspired you'll never have use from it except for resting. The Inspired has a seat mostly because it should look like a normal bike as it's a street style trials bike.
  • 2 0
 haha, next time you see someone riding a trials bike, ask them if they can ride no handed it is insanely hard on a trials bike.
  • 2 0
 What people need to realize is trials is definitely a niche segment of the bike world. And with in that niche, there is stock bikes (26"wheels) and modified bikes (20"wheels). Guys buying a Mod trials bike are usually heavily into the competition side on trials. So you won't see Danny on a Mod. Plus Mods dont lend themselves too well to street/dj styles of riding. They're pretty much a comp bike.
  • 1 0
 I believe MacAskill rides a 24" prototype.







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