London Bike Show Update

by Mike Levy
Jan 13, 2012 at 13:33

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Pivot's new 5.7 Carbon has the same 145mm (5.7'') of travel as their aluminum version, but shaves roughly 200 grams thanks to the switch in frame material. Total frame weight sits at a claimed 5.2lbs. Tech notes include the bike's tapered headtube and 12x142mm thru-axle rear, as well as some very nice frame protection in the form of molded rubber sections on the downtube and chainstay.


Pivot was also showing off their Point chromoly steel hardtail, a super clean looking bike that features a tapered headtube and interchangeable dropouts that allow you to fit a number of different axle options. It's shown with a single speed setup.


The Rose Beefcake is sporting updated geo, including a 64 degree head angle that should make it much more DH friendly. The bike shown above uses the race team's spec, including the mega exotic Carbocage chain guide.


Saracen had Manon Carpenter's Myst on display, the very bike that she rode to her 2011 Junior Downhill World Champs win.


Scott Beaumont is now going to be going to 4X and dual battles for Yeti.


Bike polo game in session at the London Bike Show.


Few photos from the London bike show 2012

There was also a slackline setup for people to test themselves on. There was plenty of carnage to be seen, as you can imagine.


This trials demo had many onlookers' eyes glued to what was happening.


The fine folks at Interbike need one of these for next year's show, although that might seriously effect the amount of coverage that you all get to see.


Riders were absolutely pinning it on the wooden pump track, splinters be dammed.


The London skyline.



Stay tuned for more from the London Bike Show!
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80 Comments

  • + 25
flag Downhill340 (Jan 13, 2012 at 14:34)
 I dont know how Id ever go to one of these shows. Id never leave , I would want Everything.

But great job on people setting up these to get their bikes and also the sport out there.
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flag clarke658 (Jan 13, 2012 at 15:23)
 I no what you mean, Went to one in Montreal in September i was like a kid in a candy store.
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flag WonderAnt10 (Jan 15, 2012 at 7:27)
 Same here! I went to look for new products for my shop I work at and my boss had nearly pull me out. I was completely overwhelmed with the amount of products that were there and just wanted to ride everything. I was there from the minute it opened, and only left and hour or so after it was suppose to be finished. I just hung out with the guys at the Giant booth to talk a bit more about there bikes and thing this have coming in for 2012.
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flag betsie Plus (Jan 13, 2012 at 14:37)
 £2099 for a 145mm travel Pivot Mach 5.7 frame, and claimed as competitive.
Is that compared to the YT Industries Wicked 150 at 1599.00 Euros for a complete and good spec bike with nice looking geometry?
  • + 8
flag domino0 (Jan 13, 2012 at 14:48)
 Remember that Pivot are a leading, high valued, prestigious brand like Yeti, consider that cheap considering the ALLOY Yeti SB66 costs £1999 - hate to imagine the price of the carbon one...
  • + 5
flag timlake (Jan 13, 2012 at 14:51)
 £2099 for a carbon frame don't forget...
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flag Drood (Jan 13, 2012 at 15:14) (Below Threshold) show comment
 Pivot? Barely heard of them. They really aren't in the same category as yeti..
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flag wilsonm73 (Jan 13, 2012 at 15:20)
 I live in Colorado so we see our share of Yeti's, and I'll have to say your wrong. Pivot is every bit as good a bike maker. Yeti is a great bike but Pivot is totally on par with them.
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flag deeeight Plus (Jan 13, 2012 at 15:27)
 Well then you need to clean out your ears because they really are in the same category, if not better. Also comparing a direct to consumer brand (like YT or Airborne) without any LBS support to a brand that only sells thru an LBS (like pivot and yeti) is pointless. They're not even in the same category.
  • + 1
flag poozank (Jan 13, 2012 at 22:10)
 That Pivot looks awesome in that spec and frame!
  • + 3
flag dingus (Jan 14, 2012 at 4:43)
 A Santa Cruz Blur LT carbon frame is £2500, so at the top end of the market it's pricing is fairly competitive.
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flag deeeight Plus (Jan 14, 2012 at 6:44)
 Also these are high end american brands you're talking about... the prices at the london bike show include the import charges to get them to jolly ol' england. A Niner Air9 HARDTAIL carbon frame is £1699, so yes I would see a full suspension carbon frame
for only £400 more as a very competitive price.
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flag wilsonm73 (Jan 14, 2012 at 9:36)
 You're right they are expensive but there are some good cheaper alternatives if this doesn't fit your budget: Specialized, Commencal, Trek, Giant, and many other EU brands have good bikes in carbon as well for less. SC, Intense, Yeti, Pivot as high end boutique makers have a niche market and struggle to make it affordable with import taxes/duties and EU sales taxes. I lived in Germany and sales tax is a whopping 19% there. So a $2600 Nomad C just became around $3220 with the sales tax of 19%. They are expensive here in the US too. $2600 plus tax for a carbon Nomad is a lot of money no matter how you slice it. I have decided to wait till carbon becomes the new aluminum to buy when the prices come down.
  • + 1
flag phdotd (Jan 15, 2012 at 12:46)
 i think pivots are great, i will always be a dual link suspension fan and will always ride only VPP or DW links, I ride an intense an older 6.6 and test rode the aluminium Pivot Mach 5.7 and thought it was fantastic, i'ld buy one, if i had the money which i don't so i won't, but the Intense carbine is in the same bracket, it seems that if you want a carbon all mountain ride you're going to pay, the bike industry controlling it again.
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flag deeeight Plus (Jan 15, 2012 at 14:09)
 Technically all horst-link 4-bars are also virtual pivot points... as are ellsworth ICTs, Rocky Mountain's Smoothlink & ETS link, the virtue link from Felt, and the Whyte Quad-Link that Marin also licenses among many others. They all call them something different, usually something trademarked, but essentially they all do the same thing. Having a long linkage like a Horst/FSR/ICT 4-bar or a short one like DW or SC/Intense VPP doesn't change the principal at work.
  • + 1
flag wilsonm73 (Jan 15, 2012 at 16:33)
 Your right at one level. The biggest difference between the VPP and the others is the counter rotating links. It's why the SB 66 is close to violating SC's patents. Most of the other bikes you mention have parallel links. But the idea is similar in that the pivot point is adjusted by the linkage for a optimum performance.
  • + 1
flag deeeight Plus (Jan 15, 2012 at 19:39)
 Yes but its also the axle path, the actual Outland VPP patent which SC bought had a very specfic axle path to chain torque relationship explained in the patent description. As long as the SB66 doesn't follow the same axle path relationship, its not violating the VPP patent.
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flag wilsonm73 (Jan 16, 2012 at 10:45)
 I think its more complex than that. The axle path is not the only thing SC bought the patent for. I think there are probably other parts of the design the patented as well. I don't think they'd be putting up a lawsuit if they didn't believe there was some sort of infringement. That's not the kind of company SC is. They're not like Specialized just out to put everyone under their thumb. I think we'll see what the California court has to say before jumping to any conclusions. Its too bad I like SC and Yeti.
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flag transitionrider19 (Jan 13, 2012 at 14:40)
 i like that Rose Beefcake bike supper simple yet satisfying to the eyes....
  • + 1
flag PLC07 (Jan 13, 2012 at 15:52)
 Yeah, I really dig it too. Less is more...
  • + 0
flag MattMatt55 (Jan 13, 2012 at 22:35)
 Simple yet elegant it is Smile
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flag applewhat (Jan 14, 2012 at 0:01)
 Oh my god that thing is sooo sexy. Why have I never heard of this before??
  • + 1
flag BrigadierBuege (Jan 14, 2012 at 13:45)
 Me too! I think it looks a lot like a transition bottlerocket, but way better.
  • + 1
flag bikobikla (Jan 14, 2012 at 14:24)
 Maybe because it's a german brand ;-)
http://www.roseversand.de/
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flag gromryder (Jan 14, 2012 at 18:27)
 looks like a transition blindside
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flag docker0141 (Jan 13, 2012 at 18:03)
 I would drag my dick through a field of a thousand cacti to have that Beefcake or either of those Pivot's
  • + 5
flag skawt-1 (Jan 14, 2012 at 11:12)
 Ouch.
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flag rustybones (Jan 14, 2012 at 11:49)
 Jesus. That bloke on the video said "errm" so many times it made my ass pinch up. Was like listening to John Major... selling something he knew fick all about!!
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  • + 4
flag doorknob100 (Jan 13, 2012 at 14:33)
 Looked like a great time. I didn't know the London skyline was so beautiful either!
  • + 40
flag Plonka (Jan 13, 2012 at 14:37)
 It's not normally
  • + 1
flag rorywood (Jan 13, 2012 at 14:47)
 hahaha try scotland!
  • + 19
flag bunkey (Jan 13, 2012 at 15:21)
 Scotland's skyline not beautiful? You need to go outside sometimes pal.
  • + 5
flag Eyon (Jan 13, 2012 at 16:36)
 I gotta disagree Plonka, London is one of my favourite cities in the world, and certainly one of the most beautiful! Scotland does beat it though, so long as we're talking the cairngorms rather than my home town of paisley!
  • + 1
flag baca262 (Jan 13, 2012 at 17:17)
 i'd have seriously mixed feelings if i lived in britain - i love riding in the mud yet i despise the gloomy rainy weather.
  • + 5
flag EuanBisset145 (Jan 14, 2012 at 2:36)
 haha 'gloomy rainy weather' I don't get this stereo type of the weather in britain being so bad, yes we get a good share of rain but we also get a lot of really good weather too. In november there was dust flying at some of my local trails.
  • + 3
flag bunkey (Jan 14, 2012 at 9:38)
 Scotland: http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/7593655/
  • + 1
flag rorywood (Jan 14, 2012 at 11:18)
 woops misunderstanding....i meant it as in scotland is like that quite often....although lately its been horrible i agree Smile
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  • + 2
flag wobbem (Jan 14, 2012 at 10:17)
 London Bike show, what a joke, 6 months behind every one else with what is happening and sod all brands. Waste of bloody money.
  • - 1
flag hampsteadbandit (Jan 14, 2012 at 11:58)
 my buddy went and said the show was crap - really tiny compared to the "proper" bike show in the UK - it was a sideshow to the "Boat Show" taking place next to it, which was massive in comparison

the UK's biggest 2 brands Specialized and Trek were not there - he called Specialized to ask why and they said "its a waste of time for us, its not a proper bike show!"


the pump track "challenge" was hilarious - but like previous DMR Pump Track Challenge rounds, BMX riders were banned, as they would have handed the MTB riders asses to them on a plate Wink
  • + 1
flag charleyboy14 (Jan 14, 2012 at 15:31)
 From a person who was there the show was poor, but the pumptrack challenge was the tits, and bmxers wern't banned 20inch wheels where so if they where so good why didnt they rock some big wheels and prove it
  • + 1
flag hampsteadbandit (Jan 15, 2012 at 5:15)
 because they are BMX riders (riding 20" wheels) and don't want to ride bigger wheels!

put most MTB riders straight onto a BMX and they are pretty useless

I've been riding BMX and MTBs for 20+ years plus, and have ridden both wheel sizes extensively on pump tracks

you cannot hope to keep up with 20" wheels on a pump track if you are riding 24" or 26" wheels (ever watched the insane speed of BMX racing?) which is why they were banned from the DMR pumptrack series
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  • + 2
flag Liggster (Jan 15, 2012 at 16:10)
 That guy sounded clueless with his knowledge about the Pivot frame... Perhaps he was a random by-stander roped in to say something :-)
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  • + 1
flag max14221 (Jan 14, 2012 at 3:14)
 i went last year and got some bits at low prices , this years looks a lot better but they are still putting 2 shows in one area of the excel, they should just do one big bike show , Rose make some nice bikes
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  • + 4
flag quentingravel Plus (Jan 13, 2012 at 20:00)
 "Moto is my life" t-shirt...and the guy is holding a mtb lol
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flag marzocchidjiii (Jan 13, 2012 at 16:12)
 my mum went, but I didn't. How is that right?!
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flag komodo1 (Jan 13, 2012 at 14:36)
 Im sure its strong, but the seatstays and chainstays on that Pivot hardtail look really thin.
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flag Daver27 (Jan 16, 2012 at 14:17)
 I think you showed the only Mountain bikes that were there...... very road oriented show and quite disappointing if i am honest.
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flag MarcHenry (Jan 15, 2012 at 8:59)
 Why are Rose using an "exotic" Carbocage. Have they not heard of Csixx? Best chain guide you can get. Lighter, stronger, quieter and smoother than anything else out there
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  • + 1
flag louie15 (Jan 18, 2012 at 3:19)
 Well very much enjoyed racing on the pumptrack with the pros, it was much more fun than the cycle show and way less road shit.
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flag p1rid4r (Jan 13, 2012 at 14:34)
 looks good!! liking the look of those pivots Wink
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flag shishka (Jan 13, 2012 at 22:03)
 Chip Cheereo here from uk signing off mates
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flag BikeTrials (Jan 13, 2012 at 18:06)
 Beef curtain would've been a better name
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flag Lehel-NS (Jan 14, 2012 at 8:36)
 What's the deal with that "mega exotic Carbocage chain guide"?
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flag caiocrz (Jan 13, 2012 at 15:32)
 At first I thought the yeti was a mini downhill rig for midgets xD
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  • + 1
flag bigdood (Jan 14, 2012 at 12:06)
 That pivot is faptastic. Anything new coming out of Yeti this year besides the SB95?
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flag elcoolio1 (Jan 13, 2012 at 17:01)
 WE NEED A PROPER VANCOUVER BIKE SHOW.

that is all
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  • + 1
flag drop20 (Jan 13, 2012 at 16:09)
 the yeti looks awkward ( i dont think i spelled that right) but the pivot dj looks like pure perfection! i want one...
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  • + 1
flag aceospades1250 (Jan 13, 2012 at 14:38)
 Wow, after 6 years, Pivot has finally caught up to Ibis!
  • + 1
flag ukr77 (Jan 13, 2012 at 17:07)
 And passed them by a long shot in terms of price!1 2099 Pounds Sterling in Canadian dollars is $3200. LOL I bought my Ibis HD at a local LBS for $2300 (frame). Does look nice though:-)
  • + 0
flag dingus (Jan 14, 2012 at 4:49)
 The Ibis HDs rrp. is £2175 in the UK, so they're around the same price.
  • + 1
flag deeeight Plus (Jan 14, 2012 at 6:47)
 Different countries have different import duties, taxes, etc. You cannot compare prices simply by exchange rate values. Hope hubs and brakes are made in the UK and are ridiculously cheap there but in canada the stuff is way more expensive. If you look at Hope products in the USA, they cost more than chris king. But in the UK, its the other way around. In canada, CK components at wholesale are higher than the retail prices for the stuff in the USA (if you simply compare exchange rates of currencies).
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flag badbadleroybrown (Jan 15, 2012 at 19:35)
 Damn... that CF 5.7 is SWEET!!!
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flag giantglory8 (Jan 16, 2012 at 5:37)
 i went it was sick the new cube dh was there soo nice
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flag PlebTheClown (Jan 15, 2012 at 13:09)
 i went last yr and the show was rubbish i rele wish i ahd gone now this yr tho
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flag GeoffWarhead (Jan 15, 2012 at 12:27)
 That's funny, I saw Trek...
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flag GermanyFreeride (Jan 14, 2012 at 1:37)
 oh, i wish, i could visit it next year!
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flag davidstuartkelly (Jan 13, 2012 at 14:45)
 That Pivot is GORGEOUS!!!
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flag Caiokv (Jan 13, 2012 at 16:56)
 Going there tomorrow!
Yay!
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flag raceace (Jan 13, 2012 at 16:00)
 i've bagged a Press pass for the weekend, pics online soon.
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flag FindlayReade (Jan 13, 2012 at 15:12)
 The pivot hardtail made me horny.
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flag scatology (Jan 14, 2012 at 7:25)
 I WANT THIS PIVOT HARDTAIL!
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flag Charliezz (Jan 13, 2012 at 21:09)
 and..and..and..end.and..and..:-D
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flag Jacko6793 (Jan 13, 2012 at 14:49)
 the shock on the pivot doesnt look kashima gold coloured (might just be the light)
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flag Porgehead (Jan 14, 2012 at 2:06)
 Does the Rose downhill bike come with the pair of hands?
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flag Snowdog85 (Jan 13, 2012 at 23:29)
 finaly someone made a cromo frame whit tapered headtube!
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flag thelumberjack (Jan 15, 2012 at 16:55)
 the new 2012 DMR 898 has one also - but your right it took long enough!
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flag surgesunday (Jan 14, 2012 at 0:21)
 My bike would have won 1st prize for custom paint job =) Word!!!
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flag hankyman (Jan 13, 2012 at 14:40)
 slacklining!
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flag Rodrigobs (Jan 15, 2012 at 13:12)
 boas fotos das bikes
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flag Jacko6793 (Jan 13, 2012 at 14:45)
 that yeti looks tiny
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